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	<title>Comments on: Why can&#8217;t newspapers get linking right?</title>
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		<title>By: Link is here</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-2796</link>
		<dc:creator>Link is here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Link is here&lt;/strong&gt;

great site</description>
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<p>great site</p>
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		<title>By: Dre</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator>Dre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 21:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe that&#039;s the reason why so many people are looking at us crazy folks trying to create online news sites. Sites like mine, &lt;a href=&quot;http://bhamterminal.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Terminal&lt;/a&gt;, an upstart by comparison, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gapersblock.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gapers Block&lt;/a&gt; are trying our best to link to the source when possible. This is despite the fact that many of the links are just to the story on the news site.

I was lucky enough to recently get my hands on &lt;a href=&quot;http://bhamterminal.com/files/2007/05/revised-tolerance-resolution.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a digital copy of the official document&lt;/a&gt;that was the focus of &lt;a href=&quot;http://bhamterminal.com/blog/2007/05/15/inclusion-resolution-passes-unanimously/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this story&lt;/a&gt; about our council finally passing an inclusion resolution. While everybody else was concerned about getting the councilor&#039;s reaction to getting it passed, I figured it might be nice to actually show people exactly what had been passed since it had been altered.

People were grateful, but since we&#039;re still so young, it&#039;s still going to be a while before I can tell if people appreciate it or if they even care most times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that&#8217;s the reason why so many people are looking at us crazy folks trying to create online news sites. Sites like mine, <a href="http://bhamterminal.com" rel="nofollow">The Terminal</a>, an upstart by comparison, or <a href="http://www.gapersblock.com" rel="nofollow">Gapers Block</a> are trying our best to link to the source when possible. This is despite the fact that many of the links are just to the story on the news site.</p>
<p>I was lucky enough to recently get my hands on <a href="http://bhamterminal.com/files/2007/05/revised-tolerance-resolution.pdf" rel="nofollow">a digital copy of the official document</a>that was the focus of <a href="http://bhamterminal.com/blog/2007/05/15/inclusion-resolution-passes-unanimously/" rel="nofollow">this story</a> about our council finally passing an inclusion resolution. While everybody else was concerned about getting the councilor&#8217;s reaction to getting it passed, I figured it might be nice to actually show people exactly what had been passed since it had been altered.</p>
<p>People were grateful, but since we&#8217;re still so young, it&#8217;s still going to be a while before I can tell if people appreciate it or if they even care most times.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-05-04 &#171; David Black</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-05-04 &#171; David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 02:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why can&#8217;t newspapers get linking right? « Online Journalism Blog &#8220;Save us the trip to Google and give us the links, please. Then we might just come back next time for more.&#8221; (tags: internet newspapers newspapersites journalism links) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why can&#8217;t newspapers get linking right? « Online Journalism Blog &#8220;Save us the trip to Google and give us the links, please. Then we might just come back next time for more.&#8221; (tags: internet newspapers newspapersites journalism links) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sholin</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-1018</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sholin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creating a link in HTML is easy enough, of course, yes, but where exactly in the content management system that your reporters deal with 8-12 hours a day does that happen?

I&#039;ve seen systems where writers can include a list of links that end up in a sidebar or footer, and that&#039;s certainly the least common denominator, assuming you have enough human staff to paste those into the right places.

It&#039;s simply not as easy as it should be in most newspaper CMS software.  We should improve it, and soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creating a link in HTML is easy enough, of course, yes, but where exactly in the content management system that your reporters deal with 8-12 hours a day does that happen?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen systems where writers can include a list of links that end up in a sidebar or footer, and that&#8217;s certainly the least common denominator, assuming you have enough human staff to paste those into the right places.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply not as easy as it should be in most newspaper CMS software.  We should improve it, and soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Content Syndicate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; To link or not to link..?</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Content Syndicate &#187; Blog Archive &#187; To link or not to link..?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 11:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To link or not to link..?  Most newspapers have had websites for a decade now. They’ve gone from shovelling print content ont... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To link or not to link..?  Most newspapers have had websites for a decade now. They’ve gone from shovelling print content ont&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s so easy to learn how to create a link, and execs should make it mandatory for reporters to do it. There’s really no excuse.&quot;

If you can teach a cat to enjoy swimming, that will be the day that most journalists will learn how to do HTML. 

Only when it starts tap-dancing the national anthem on the top of the water will  the execs even understand what you&#039;re talking about.

Although several generations of geeks like us takes this stuff for granted, no-one else remotely cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s so easy to learn how to create a link, and execs should make it mandatory for reporters to do it. There’s really no excuse.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you can teach a cat to enjoy swimming, that will be the day that most journalists will learn how to do HTML. </p>
<p>Only when it starts tap-dancing the national anthem on the top of the water will  the execs even understand what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>Although several generations of geeks like us takes this stuff for granted, no-one else remotely cares.</p>
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		<title>By: meish dot org &#187; links for 2007-05-02</title>
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		<dc:creator>meish dot org &#187; links for 2007-05-02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 02:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why can&#8217;t newspapers get linking right? « Online Journalism Blog Most newspapers have had websites for a decade now. They’ve gone from shovelling print content onto a webpage to hosting video bulletins and podcasts, blogs and galleries, and even social networking. And yet they still can’t seem to get one thing righ (tags: blogging journalism newspapers) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why can&#8217;t newspapers get linking right? « Online Journalism Blog Most newspapers have had websites for a decade now. They’ve gone from shovelling print content onto a webpage to hosting video bulletins and podcasts, blogs and galleries, and even social networking. And yet they still can’t seem to get one thing righ (tags: blogging journalism newspapers) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-05-01 &#124; jamesmitchell.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-953</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-05-01 &#124; jamesmitchell.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 23:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why can’t newspapers get linking right? Most newspapers have had websites for a decade now. They’ve gone from shovelling print content onto a webpage to hosting video bulletins and podcasts, blogs and galleries, and even social networking. And yet they still can’t seem to get one thing righ (tags: newspaper+websites social+media video podcasts blogging) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why can’t newspapers get linking right? Most newspapers have had websites for a decade now. They’ve gone from shovelling print content onto a webpage to hosting video bulletins and podcasts, blogs and galleries, and even social networking. And yet they still can’t seem to get one thing righ (tags: newspaper+websites social+media video podcasts blogging) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so easy to learn how to create a link, and execs should make it mandatory for reporters to do it. There&#039;s really no excuse.

It&#039;s a better-than-nothing solution putting them in a sidebar or footer. That doesn&#039;t serve the reader most. It&#039;s easier to make the word in the story a link...Then if they decide they want more info they don&#039;t need to go searching for the link somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so easy to learn how to create a link, and execs should make it mandatory for reporters to do it. There&#8217;s really no excuse.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a better-than-nothing solution putting them in a sidebar or footer. That doesn&#8217;t serve the reader most. It&#8217;s easier to make the word in the story a link&#8230;Then if they decide they want more info they don&#8217;t need to go searching for the link somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
		<link>http://onlinejournalismblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/why-cant-newspapers-get-linking-right/#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 19:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The common belief that newspapers don’t want to link is red herring.&quot;

Maybe so, but the habit seems hard to break when it comes to material written purely for the web such as newspaper blogs. Either they have no links at all or they get an intern to google for random things just to satisfy a link count. &lt;a href=&quot;http://peteashton.com/2007/04/links_are_content/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Or so it seems.&lt;/a&gt; 

A compromise for &quot;normal&quot; journalism might be to slot to reference links at the bottom of the piece, rather like the BBC News site does in the sidebar, only a little more useful that that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The common belief that newspapers don’t want to link is red herring.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe so, but the habit seems hard to break when it comes to material written purely for the web such as newspaper blogs. Either they have no links at all or they get an intern to google for random things just to satisfy a link count. <a href="http://peteashton.com/2007/04/links_are_content/" rel="nofollow">Or so it seems.</a> </p>
<p>A compromise for &#8220;normal&#8221; journalism might be to slot to reference links at the bottom of the piece, rather like the BBC News site does in the sidebar, only a little more useful that that.</p>
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